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Mar / Apr 2004 Vol 20 Issue 3 |

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NEWSLETTER OF HARMENY ATHLETIC
CLUB, BALERNO, EDINBURGH
Frequently Asked Questions For new Junior
members and parents
Every Summer at the start (and during) the Track and Field season we
are asked questions by the many new parents about the procedures for the various
Inter-club meetings and Leagues we participate in. It's also worth reminding everyone else
who may have forgotten.
"Why can't everyone choose their events?"
- At Inter-club League meetings for each event there are only 2 places available, an
"A" string and a "B" string, so it would be impossible, for example
for everyone to do a sprint. The exception is at "Open Graded meetings" which
are open to any number of individuals.
- At most meetings there is only a selection of events on the programme for each age
group, so sometimes a preferred event may not be on.
- For the well-being of younger competitors there is a restriction on the number of events
that anyone can do, eg 2 x Track & 1 x Field, or 1 x Track and 2 x Field, plus a
relay. For those competing in longer track races we try not to select them for other
strenuous races. The minimum we usually need in a team for each age group to cover all the
individual events plus the relay is 4, but we usually aim for 5.
- Sometimes there is a clash of events on the timetable which makes it difficult for a
competitor to do both.
- In the younger age groups we try to give most participants a go at different events over
the season until we all see what everyone is best at.
- In some age groups in some events we will be very strong, therefore we do have to rotate
selection to give everyone an opportunity.
- In the older age groups, some of the athletes start to train for a specific group of
events and attain a high standard. They will be selected primarily for their stronger
events.
"Why are they not told their events beforehand"
- We don't always know who is confirmed until a day or two before a meeting.
- There are ALWAYS last minute withdrawals (and occasionally additions). This means
re-arranging the events that the remaining or replacement team members do. As with any
sport, if someone drops out, positions or events will be changed.
"Why can't we just turn up for our events"
- Same reason as 2 above.
- Transport: We depend on parents to provide lifts there and back. For trips
further afield we organise coaches, but that requires everyone to travel together.
- Team sheets have to be completed accurately and lodged with the organisers before the
meeting starts. The only way we know for certain that everyone is coming is for everyone
to be there in time for the start.
- Many of the juniors enjoy being away for the day with their team-mates.
"How do teams get selected?"
- The coaches select the teams for each meeting. Each coach will take an age group and
contact a group of members, taking into account everyone's ability for the mix of events
on the programme, family groups etc. (We also collect details of travel arrangements.)
- The confirmed list of team members (plus all those yet to be confirmed!!) and likely
events they will be doing is passed to the Team manager for that League. The Team Manager
is then responsible for the logistics of getting all the competitors to and from the
venue; confirming any last minute changes to the team or the events everyone is doing;
completing the team sheets (!!!); ensuring we provide the appropriate number of officials
/ helpers; getting each competitor to the right event at the right time during the meeting
and sorting out everything else imaginable with the organisers or club members. There is a
separate section on Team management.
The list of Coaches and Team Managers is on the Contacts Sheet
"Who organises the sport (clubs, training, meetings, leagues
etc)?"
- At our level the sport is entirely amateur and voluntary. Nearly everything is organised
by parents who have got involved through their children.
- Most parents will be asked to take a turn in assisting at training, providing transport
to venues or helping out at meetings. Please be ready to help.
"What should competitors (& parents) take to meetings?"
- Eight safety pins for numbers. We do have a supply but we hand out hundreds every year!
- Plenty to drink - Fruit Juice, diluted water, or even plain water. Fizzy drinks (in
spite of their advertising) are not recommended. Parents may find that a flask of
something hot is essential.
- Light Snacks - Competitors should not have a heavy meal before competing (or training!)
- A small amount of spending money: There is often a cafeteria at the venue,
however we do not like to see junior members eating sweets all day! There may also be a
small transport charge for those who are provided with lift. (Please provide coins rather
than large notes!)
- (All) Warm extra layers of clothing including waterproofs (unless it's a guaranteed
heatwave). A change of clothing is recommended in wet weather. Make sure your child knows
what he or she has brought with him/her
- (Parents) A rug and/or folding camp chairs if seating at the venue is limited, or you
want to sit in the sunshine.
- If any competitor is taking medication, or suffers from asthma, please ensure that
he/she has all the necessary stuff, and that the coach or team manager knows. A parent
coming along is strongly recommended.
- Running gear, trainers and spikes, shorts, socks etc.
- Sun tan lotion. Occasionally we do get very sunny days.
We have published a "Rough Guide to Venues" which gives
details on cafeterias and seated cover
"How do the leagues work?"
From April September we compete in a couple of inter-club Track
and Field leagues. As these are club events, all competitors must compete in club vests.
(In really awful weather sensible officials will let competitors in throwing events stay
wrapped up.)
The scoring system in each league is slightly different, but all have
the same basic features as explained below.
- Every competitor scores points according to their position in their event, eg 16 pts for
1st "A" string competitor, 15 pts for 2nd "A" ... , 8 pts for 1st
"B", 7 for 2nd "B" etc. (The actual number used may vary in different
leagues.)
- The sprints are run as separate "A" and "B" races.
- For all the field events and the distance races (800m upwards) all the competitors
("A" & "B" strings) compete together. The first ranked competitor
from each club in these events counts as the "A" string, irrespective of
which way round they may have been declared on the team sheet. If a club has only one
competitor then he / she is counted as an "A" string.
- Each competitor has to wear numbers front and back. There are "A" and
"B" string numbers. We try to organise the team sheet to minimise the amount
of number changing.
- Everybody's contribution is important. Someone finishing third in three "B"
events will score more points than someone who only competes in, but wins, one A string
event.
- At the end of the meeting the total points scored by each club are calculated, and
subsequently scrutinised (which is why it sometimes takes a while for us to get the
details). Match points are awarded to each club based on their position, eg 8 points for
1st club, 7 pts for 2nd etc. (Again each league is slightly different according to the
number of clubs). There are usually three of four meetings for each league, and the total
match points determine promotion and relegation.
We now report all individual performances, and overall league standings
in the "Harmeny Herald" newsletter which comes out every two months.
"International" Rugby Call-up for Harmeny Sprinter
Lynsey Douglas, one of the club's longest serving members was recently
selected for the Scottish Students women's rugby team and made her
"International" debut on the wing against English Universities in March. Lynsey
is currently doing a Sports Science degree at Loughborough, and last autumn completed the
first part of her club coaching qualification. (Those readers with a bit of geography
knowledge will know that Loughborough is in England, but Scottish Students selection is
allowed to include those studying on the other side of the border.)
Championships
There are several members who should be entering various district and national
championships. We've listed these in this Herald. To compete you need to fill in an entry
form, and you do need to be registered with Athletics Scotland if you are
registered you'll have received a blue booklet. If you're not registered then phone 0131
476 7321
Harmeny AC Summer Outdoor Fixtures 2004
Track and Field Leagues
| Dates and Venues currently
known |
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Leaving from
Balerno HS |
| Apr |
11th |
Sun |
Edinburgh Inter-club open meeting |
All |
Meadowbank |
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22nd |
Thu |
Forth Valley League |
U11,U13,U15 |
Livingston |
5:25 pm |
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| May |
2nd |
Sun |
Young Athletes League |
U13,U15,U17 |
Grangemouth |
10:30 am |
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9th |
Sun |
* Scottish Women's League |
U13,15,17,Sen |
Scotstoun |
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20th |
Thu |
Forth Valley League |
U11,U13,U15 |
Pitreavie |
5:15 pm |
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23rd |
Sun |
Young Athletes League |
U13,U15,U17 |
Scotstoun |
10:00 am |
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| June |
17th |
Thu |
Forth Valley League |
U11,U13,U15 |
Livingston (C) |
5:25 pm |
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20nd |
Sun |
* Scottish Women's League |
U13,15,17,Sen |
Meadowbank |
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27th |
Sun |
Young Athletes League |
U13,U15,U17 |
Coatbridge |
10:15 am |
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| Aug |
8th |
Sun |
Forth Valley League |
U11,U13,U15 |
Pitreavie |
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22nd |
Sun |
* Scottish Women's League |
U13,15,17,Sen |
Grangemouth |
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| Sep |
11th |
Sat |
FVL President Select Meeting |
U11,U13,U15 |
Pitreavie |
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* Note: The Women's League is a multi-club Lothian Clubs select team.
We have withdrawn from the Men's League this year due to insufficient
numbers / unavailability of several members.
Local Open Graded Meetings
Open graded meetings are events that ANYONE can go along to and enter
on the night. The organisers (usually the local club) will have a small selection of
events on the programme. You register for the event or events you want to do. We would
encourage everyone to have a go at some of these, and will attempt to help out with
transport. Registration must be at least half-an-hour before your first event. Grangemouth
tends to be better attended, and track races are drawn according to ability (rather than
age).
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Events |
Start Time |
| May |
5 |
Wed |
Grangemouth Stadium |
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6.30 |
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19 |
Wed |
Livingston, Craigswood Sports Centre |
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6.45 |
| June |
2 |
Wed |
Grangemouth Stadium |
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6.30 |
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23 |
Wed |
Livingston, Craigswood Sports Centre |
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6.45 |
| July |
7 |
Wed |
Grangemouth Stadium |
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6.30 |
| Aug |
4 |
Wed |
Grangemouth Stadium |
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6.30 |
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21 |
Sat |
Livingston, Craigswood Sports Centre |
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11.00 |
| Sep |
1 |
Wed |
Grangemouth Stadium |
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6.30 |
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5 |
Sun |
Pitreavie Young Athletes meeting |
Full programme |
10.00 |
Championships
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Venue |
Last Date for Entries |
| May |
15/16 |
Sat/Sun |
East & West Districts |
Meadowbank |
23 Apr |
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29/30 |
Sat/Sun |
Combined Events |
Pitreavie |
7 May |
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29 |
Sat |
U17 M 3000m |
Pitreavie |
7 May |
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30 |
Sun |
Junior 3x800, 4x400, Relays |
Pitreavie |
7 May |
| June |
13 |
Sun |
Masters (aka Veterans) |
Dumfries |
21 May |
| Aug |
14 |
Sat |
Junior 4 x 100m Relays |
Scotstoun |
23 July |
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14/15 |
Sat/Sun |
Scottish Championships |
Scotstoun |
23 July |
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28 |
Sat |
U13 & U15 Championships |
Grangemouth |
6 Aug |
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29 |
Sun |
U17 & U20 Championships |
Grangemouth |
6 Aug |
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