Michael Hoffman: Revisionist
Michael Hoffman is a well known Revisionist scholar, not only in his
native America, but right across the world. As such FC was chuffed
to bits to be able to interview him, thanks to the efforts of a TP
colleague in America. A edited version of this interview appeared
in The Voice of St George
#18.
1. Unlike most people who write for Nationalist journals, you once
worked in mainstream journalism, thereby giving you insights that
most of us never have. Can you explain the 'atmosphere', the 'people'
in this journalistic world, and tell us why they are so anti-Nationalist,
so keen on promoting what is objectively evil?
I can only speak for the American scene. The "atmosphere" is largely
dictated by the assembly-line that churns out journalism graduates
from the colleges and universities. The reporters all think alike
because they were all filtered through the same sieve--the modern
college and university with its fetish against everything traditional,
heterosexual and white.
This wasn't always this way. In the old days, a high school drop-out
could become a reporter if he had a talent for writing and digging
up facts. Typically someone like that entered journalism through a
form of apprenticeship, as H.L. Mencken did.
They started by hanging around newspaper offices as adolescents,
changing typewriter ribbons, sweeping floors, toting dictionaries,
doing some fact-checking. If they had tenacity and were willing to
discipline themselves to the demands of the trade, they might eventually
get the opportunity to fill in for a sick or otherwise absent reporter.
It would be a one-shot, make-or-break opportunity and the better guys
made it. They brought with them a world view as diverse as their own
individual backgrounds. They weren't all cut from the same leftist
university mould. You had some real independence, and this made for
a news media with a more original and more open perspective.
That would be improbable now, except at the level of the lowliest
small town newspapers, or 10 watt radio stations. Any hope for the
future of mass communication rests with alternative media - forming
our own publishing and Internet enterprises. This isn't to say that
there are not some good reporters and editors around. There are a
few, but not many - and even the few who are somewhat honest and independent
are enslaved to careerism. They dare not buck the totalitarian dictates
of their corporate overseers, because they have their eye on Joseph
Pulitzer's prize and
failing that, job security and a pension.
2. You have been considered an anti-Establishment figure in America
for quite a few years now. Do you consider yourself 'anti-Establishment'?
If so, how did you move from mainstream journalism to what might be
called "the outer limits"?
I don't see how any thinking person can be anything but "anti-Establishment"
these days, since the Establishment seems determined to flush 3,000
years of accumulated wisdom and heritage down the sewer in favour
of the most unspeakable ephemera on the one hand, and obsequious pandering
to foreign pressure groups on the other.
I was fired from my job as a reporter, because I dared to produce
a documentary for radio on the Israeli holocaust against the Palestinians.
A Jewish medical doctor made it his life's work to see that I was
sacked and he succeeded. My defenders on the staff included a sum
total of one man. Outside the radio station, only two people came
to my assistance. Two Jewish intellectuals came to my defence, civil
libertarian, Noam Chomsky at M.I.T., and Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, but
they did not prevail. So I was forced to resume my journalism outside
the Establishment media.
3. Part of your recurrent critique of Hollywood and its products is
that the film industry constantly targets Germans, Arabs, Christians
and Whites in general. Why do you think that there is this targeting?
What effect do you think this targeting has on both the targets and
on film audiences? Do you think that Nationalists have any hope of
countering this massive propaganda offensive by the so-called "entertainment
industry" given the disproportion of means that exist between us and
Hollywood? Are there any hopeful signs at all?
The targeting constitutes psychological warfare. It's all about imposing
false guilt because such guilt leaves deep psychic scars and paralyzes
people to the extent that they refuse to defend themselves against
their own exterminators.
This trend can be combatted but to do so, people will have to work
hard to gain the skills necessary to edit and produce our own documentaries
professionally to expose the process. The technological tools are
affordable and available. What is needed is the will to create our
own media and the network to distribute it.
4. It is probably true to say that the label most commonly thrown
at you by your enemies is "revisionist". Do you accept the label?
If so, why? If not, why?
I wish that revisionist was the most common invective that was hurled
at me. But because "revisionist" is an honourable and legitimate--if
controversial-- term, in the history of scholarship, this is actually
a phrase that is seldom used to describe me. My enemies prefer the
terminology of dogma and hysteria, specifically the politicized taxonomy
devised by Deborah Lipstadt, that of "Holocaust denier."
It's a laughable term, actually. I mean, imagine if someone was
labelled a "Resurrection-denier" or "Virgin-Birth denier" in reference
to doubts about Christianity. Anyone in our day who discriminated
against such a "denier" of Christian truths would be regarded as a
daft fool by "progressives."
Suddenly, however, when it comes to this new religion that has
taken hold in the otherwise agnostic West, the religion of the gas
chambers, it becomes a mortal sin in the eyes of the "progressives"
to doubt homicidal gassings at Auschwitz, and the doubter is transformed
into a "denier" and thereby made a candidate for imprisonment and
impoverishment.
Since this is all done in the name of "democracy" by politicians
and media executives who loudly proclaim the right to doubt everything
except Allied World War II claims and Auschwitz "Survivor" tales,
one discovers something humorous here--a pomposity and suzerainty
that is laughable, given the milieu in which it is advanced.
A revisionist is a historian, who accepts the bedrock principle
of historical investigation - that as a result of ongoing research,
new facts about the past are constantly coming to light and in response
to this new information, the record of the past is constantly undergoing
revision, and rightly so. History and learning are the better for such
revision, but dogma is destroyed by it.
5. Whatever your reply to Question 4, it is certainly the case that
you have taken a great interest in the historical debates surrounding
the events of the last war. When and why did you begin to question
the views of 'orthodox' historians?
I was very fortunate to have been raised in a family of what might
be termed extreme individualists. On my father's side were a number
of inventors, pioneers, and ‘heretical’ bibliophiles.
On my mother's side, my maternal grandfather was a successful businessman,
who had inside knowledge of American political skullduggery. He knew,
for example, in 1960 that Joseph Kennedy was a mobster who had bought
the presidential election with votes furnished by the Chicago Mafia
on behalf of his son, John F. Kennedy. I was a young boy at the time,
but I remembered what grandfather told us and it was shocking. Decades
later it came out that he was right. So from an early age I had an
inkling that so-called ‘current events’ and what is called history
were not what they seemed.
I learned to doubt - to be skeptical - attitudes that used to
be regarding as indispensable components of the scientific method,
and still are, when applied to officially-approved areas of inquiry.
Now that we are entering a neo-Bolshevik era, we must be careful about
what we dare to doubt and what illusions we scrutinize and question,
less we end up in a dungeon.
6. Some may say that this is all well and good, the digital/visual realm,
but in the typographical realm of the old Gutenberg universe, it comes
off a distant second in the eyes of the modern person.
The teaching of the Classics is an important antidote to our present
ignorance. What could be more germane to the struggle for national
renaissance today than the writings of Homer? Odysseus was a sole
survivor because he learned the hard way that he had to pay heed to
the laws of heaven. For a world drunk on this moment, the Homeric
epiphany is anything but high-brow or irrelevant. It is in fact, vital
survival lore, without which we may go extinct.
This is why it was preserved and passed down so assiduously, becoming,
at the height of the English public school phenomenon, as it arose
at Eton, Harrow and Rugby, the very font of English character.
It is catastrophic to depart from this wisdom tradition, to think
we can dump overboard the lessons of millennia without ill effect.
Chesterton put his finger on it, amid the mania for voting and democracy,
when he said that he believed that we should give the dead a vote.
We enfranchise our ancestors and fortify ourselves when we teach the
real history of great men.
To this I add the necessity of resisting and exposing the "new
religion" of the Auschwitz gas chambers, which is a covert attack
on the whole of our traditional civilization as something so vile
and wicked it requires the mediation of Judaism to re-shape and rescue
it.
This is why so-called "conservatives" are so impotent. They pretend
to want to defend classical Western civilization while at the same
time making an accomodation with Judaism. This is impossible because
the two are mutually exclusive. The canon of Western literature is
brimming with very unfavourable appraisals of Judaism and its adherents,
from Shylock to Fagin. The West, in its essence, represents hostility to
the mind-numbing regimentation and
racism of Talmudic Phariseeism, and the clandestine subversion and
megalomania of the Kabbalah.
One cannot "reform" Western civilization into a "way of life"
pleasing to Judaism without destroying it. This is what conservatives
do when they continually repudiate a vast portion of what was central
to their Western heritage, in order to win favour with media bosses
and politicians. These "conservatives", in fact, conserve nothing.
7. You have written a number of books over the years, in addition
to your extensive writings in journals and bulletins of all kinds.
Two in particular seem to have garnered a lot of interest. The first
concerns your book on the origins of slavery, and the second concerns
your recent work on Secret Societies. Can you please: (a) give us
a synopsis of each book (b) explain why you chose to research and
write on these subjects (c) give us some idea of the positive and
negative responses that you have had to these books?
"Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare" is a book which I like
to think takes the study of Freemasonry, and what lies behind it,
to a new and different level of understanding. One cannot understand
the history of Great Britain without grasping what happened to it
beginning with Elizabeth I and the door she flung open to her court
magus, John Dee, who is the actual godfather and architect of the
occult movement that came to be known as Freemasonry; and which had
nearly fatal consequences for the destiny of the people in Scotland,
Wales, Ireland and England.
The main insight I've tried to impart in this book is "The Revelation
of the Method," the final dictum of the process of human alchemy,
the transformation of Man into Beast. I'm afraid it's too complex
to discuss in this brief format, suffice it to say it centres on the
deliberate revelation of secrets by the Cryptocracy itself, in order
to lock down its hold over humanity at this late stage in their peculiar
game plan.
My other book consists of the history of the enslavement of whites
in industrial Britain and early America. It largely arose out of my
great curiosity regarding the fate of early factory workers and miners,
workhouse children and so-called "indentured" labourers and "convicts."
With all of the wallowing in the annals of black enslavement, I was
amazed to discover how little attention was being accorded the record
of white enslavement; after research on both sides of the "pond,"
I wrote "They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History
of the Enslavement of Whites."
As far as reactions and impact goes, there are more than one million
youths in the U.S., who are being educated at home.
We have sold many
copies of my books to these eager and curious home-schooled students,
who are learning outside the government-operated schools and who will
undoubtedly form the leadership of the next generation.These modest
sales figures might give some publishers a terminal case of ulcers.
Moreover, the nature of my material is so avant-garde and forbidden
that an aura has arisen around both of my books, and they have had
their entry in elite circles. Professors at the university level are
beginning to write of other categories of "unfree" white labour, other
than the rigidly and absurdly limited indentured and convict categories.
They are beginning to approach the articulation of an awareness that
white slaves existed. Two years ago, a major book from an establishment
publisher used my white slaves' book as the basis of their mass market
hardcover book, "The Redneck Manifesto."
Meanwhile, my book on "Secret Societies" has been translated into
Japanese and published in a hardcover edition in Tokyo.
What the ultimate repercussions of my writing will be I cannot
say with absolute certainty, and in one sense it does not concern
me. We seem too obsessed with results and we often work less, or less
than we should, unless we can be guaranteed "results."
The task of the writer is to do his duty, by doing the very best
job that he can with the tools and talents afforded him. The results
may be instantaneous, or they may be felt only in the distant future,
by posterity; but the motive, the impulsion, has to be doing one's
duty. As Dorothy Sayers said, "The only Christian work is good work,
well done."
8. We understand that you are currently working on a couple of new,
as yet untitled, books. Would you care to tell us a little about these
books and when you expect to publish it?
Because 75% of my time is spent on fund-raising and only the remainder
on writing and research, I confess to be working rather fitfully on
these two books. One is for the commercial market, whereby I intend
to "slip through" my themes in what I hope will be a popular, if macabre,
history of the hanging of poor whites in 18th century Britain.
The other book is a paperback intended for mass distribution through
Movement networks. It's on the religion of Judaism. There has never
been such a study utilizing all the resources and,
and is in fact inimical not only to the New Testament but the Old
Testament as well. I am beginning my analysis with the foundational
texts of Judaism, starting with the Mishnah.
9. How do you see the Nationalist Movement in general moving forwards?
What do you think is being done that is wrong/misguided/pointless;
what do you think is not being done which should be done?
I suppose the biggest problem is the lack of ambition, initiative
and enterprise. We're keen on talking about the boldness of a Francis
Drake, but personifying his daring and inventiveness seems to be another
matter. We are too much focused on seizing national governmental power,
and that focus blinds us to other avenues that are wide open to us
if we have the character and the backbone to make our own way.
For one thing we should be trading with one another to our advantage
and to the disadvantage of those outside our circle. The establishment
of successful businesses and commercial enterprises is paramount.
We should employ our own people and trade with our own and build our
power and influence partly by such means.
Businesses can be made to flourish. Quiet networks can be developed.
Loyalty must be rewarded and traitors strictly ostracized until they
repent and reform. We have ideas and information for which the world
is hungry. Why should we not use our ingenuity in marketing them and
in building a community in the process? Reading, talking and praying
are fine to a point, but by themselves they are essentially contemplative.
Men and women of action, who have truth on their side, should be the
most successful people by every yardstick - spiritually, academically,
and materially. I think we're too fond of the image of the starving
artist, the neglected visionary and the persecuted martyr. Our ancestors
were not comfortable with such designations. They overcame all odds
to be winners and achievers. Destiny will accept nothing less from
us.
10. What signs, if any, do you see of an awakening to the catastrophic
situation of our civilization? Do you think that thered. Many will mistake these necessary upheavals and growing pains
as ultimate doom and decay. Others, endowed with a longer view, will
recognize birth pangs, not death throes.
Certain Black Magicians - and I use that term in the sense of
those who are adept at psychological warfare, not in the sense of
stage magic or superstition - are intent on sowing despair, defeatism
and fear in our ranks, preying on the disconnection of the "goyim"
from their racial memories and classical wisdom.
But the only thing we ever have to fear is the wrath of God, and
we can only kindle His anger by failing to do our duty. If we do our
duty, God will be faithful and do His.
Toward the end of Bram Stoker's Victorian novel, "Dracula," as
the wooden stake is driven into the heart of the fiend, the vampire
is seen to smile in relief. Illusion and wickedness have no right
to rule. When affairs become so unnatural that they reign, nature
conspires in their overthrow, an overthrow in which even they rejoice,
as Stoker suggested.
Those who desire evil work good in spite of themselves. The Columbine
school massacre in Colorado last April has focused attention on the
harm that TV, video and atrocious films have wrought. This attention
is very welcome. Much good has come of it. Parents are withdrawing
their children from government schools, and home-schooling is increasing
in numbers due to the Columbine massacre. Evil was intended, but Good
has come of it.
I emphasize the importance of family life to any Movement for national
renaissance: stable marriages consisting of dedicated husbands and
wives; large families with children, who are educated according to
the great principles of our heritage. There is no substitute for such
families. Where these are lacking, nothing much else can succeed.
The roots such families plant take a long time to grow, that is true.
But such roots run very deep and are difficult to uproot. We are in
the predicament we are in today due to our own shortcomings and weaknesses.
Contraception and abortion have weakened us. We need to eschew
these failures and build anew, beginning with the fundamentals and
do so without any sense of panic, of having no time there be less in-fighting,
hair-splitting and suspicion among friends and allies. So what if
people don't agree with us with total unanimity? If they are of good
will and kindred spirits, let us see what there is to celebrate among
us. People are naturally attracted to joy and happiness. Such joy
is infectious and highly attractive to others. If we are not enjoying
the struggle we should get out of it. I'm having the time of my life
doing what I was put on this earth to do. There is no happier destiny.
HOFFMAN'S BOOKS ETC.
Amazing Stories. The anti-White, anti-Christian, anti-German and
anti-Arab media and film industry. 60p. Secret Societies and Psychological
Warfare. How powerful elites wage war against us. £10.
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They Were White and They Were Slaves. There were many White slaves
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A list of Hoffman's revisionist books, tapes and newsletters available
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