July - December
This was the list at
the end of December, 1999. For the up to date list go to Where
are they now ?
Jimmy Armfield (Blackpool) for Radio Five
Ron Atkinson (Oxford
United) for ITV
Trevor Brooking (West
Squad) on Radio Five Live and BBC t.v.'s 'Match of the
Jack Charlton (Leeds
Bobby Gould (Wolves) for Talk Radio.
Norman Hunter (Leeds
United) for Radio Leeds.
Billy McNeill (Celtic) for Channel Five.
for Sky One
Bobby Moncur (Newcastle
United) has his
own phone in on Century Radio.
David Pleat (Peterborough) for ITV
Graeme Souness (Tottenham
Terry Venables (QPR) has own phone in on Virgin
Radio Saturdays at noon, and is also on ITV.
Bob Wilson (Arsenal) for ITV
Graeme Souness (Tottenham
'The Sunday Times'
sports section (page 7) on Boxing Day, 1999 ran the
article,'Souness relishes new lease of life.' This refers
both to the fact that Graeme has had a triple by-pass
heart operation and is currently out of management - but
forever being cited as interested in vacant posts. Graeme
says, 'I feel great. I go to the gym three or four times
a week and I'm sensible about what I eat and drink'.
Twice a week he dines at the Hotel du Vin in Winchester
so that he can further his knowledge of wine. He now has
a baby son, James, and is married to his second wife,
Karen, who it seems had a bit part in a Bond movie !!
Graeme's father was a
glazier and he grew up in Saughton Mains, a deprived area
of Edinburgh. He was on the streets every night and at 12
followed the family tradition of being sent to live with
his grandmother. His son, by contrast, has been placed on
the list for Twyford - the oldest prep school in the
Graeme has a book out
called, 'Souness the Management Years', which
concentrates on his time as a manager of Liverpool and
Rangers. Graeme has had his bust ups which accounts for
not accompaning mourners to Anfield after Bob Paisley's
funeral, and avoiding testimonials because of the long
memories of some players for his tackles as a player !.In
his own words, Karen has made Graeme 'a nicer person to
be around ... I am nothing like what I was on the pitch.'
GRAEME SOUNESS FACTFILE
(taken directly from the article).
1953 : Born Edinburgh,
1968 : Joins Tottenham
as an apprentice.
1972 : Moves to
1973 : Makes League
dedut, going on to make 176 League appearances for the
1974 : Helps
Middlesbrough win promotion and makes his debut for
1978 : Signs for
Liverpool for £350,000 and goes on to make 247 League
appearances, winning five titles, three European Cups and
four League Cups.
1984 : Joins Sampdoria
for £650,000.1986 : Wins last of 54 caps for Scotland.
Joins Rangers as a player-manager for £300,000. Leads
the Glasgow club to three League titles and four Skol Cup
1991 : Returns to
Liverpool as successor to Kenny Dalglish.1992 : Endures
triple heart by-pass operation. Recovers in time to see
Liverpool win FA Cup at Wembly.
1993 : Liverpool suffer
worse season for 30 years. Souness departs.
1995 : Appointed
manager of Galatasaray.
1996 : Sacked by
Galatasaray. Appointed manager of Southampton.
1997 : Secures
Premiership survival for Southampton then resigns.
1998 : Becomes Benfica
coach. Guides them to third place in 1998-99, but more is
1999 : Replaced by Jupp
Alan Ball (Everton)
This career breakdown
appears at Football365 with additions from the (near
as dammit) same breakdown that appeared in the Friday,
'The Times ' newspaper.
ALAN BALL FACTFILE
1945: Born Farnworth,
Lancashire, May 12.
1962: Joined Blackpool, for whom
he made 116 league appearances and scored 41 goals.
1965: Made England debut in a
1-1 draw against Yugoslavia in Belgrade.
1966: A World Cup winner with
England in July. A month later, he was sold to Everton
for a record £110,000 for whom he played 208 games and
scored 66 goals.
1968: FA Cup runner-up.
1970: Won League championship
1971: Transferred to Arsenal for
£220,000, another record, for whom he plyed 177 games
and scored 45 goals.
1972: FA Cup runner-up.
1973: Became only second England
player in history to be sent off, against Poland in
1975: Won the last of 72 England
caps, skippering the national side in a 5-1 win over
Scotland at Wembley.
1976: Sold to Southampton - 132
games, 9 goals.
1978: Begins spell in the United
States as player-boss of Philadelphia Fury.
1979: League Cup runner-up with
1980: Rejoins Blackpool - 30
games, 5 goals - after a spell in Canada as
player-manager of Vancouver Whitecaps.
1981: Quits as Blackpool
player-manager and returns for a second spell with
Southampton - 63 games, 2 goals.
1983: Joins Bristol Rovers - 17
games, 2 goals - after playing in Hong Kong with Eastern.
Retires in May after 975 first-team games in 21 years.
1984: Named manager of
1987: Guides Pompey into the
1989: Has a spell as coach at
Colchester after parting company with Portsmouth. Later
succeeds Mick Mills at Stoke City.
1991: Quits the Potters for an
exciting new career as a publican (a few miles from where
I grew up in Maidenhead. I went there a few times,
admired the football pictures, but never saw him ! -
Bob). Five months later, he returns to football as
manager of third division Exeter.
1992: Joins Graham Taylor's
England coaching staff.
1994: Leaves Exeter to become
manager at Southampton alongside Lawrie McMenemy.
1995: Signs two-year extension
to existing contract in May after taking Saints to tenth
in Premiership. On July 1, agrees three-year contract as
manager of Manchester City.
1996: City are relegated to
Division One on final day of season, a 2-2 home draw with
Liverpool not enough to keep them up. After City lose two
of their first three matches of 1996-97, Ball quits Maine
Road and says he wants a complete break from football.
1998: Takes over from Terry
Fenwick for a second spell as Portsmouth manager, and
they escape relegation on the last day of the season.
1999: New chairman Milan
Mandaric helps the club recover from massive financial
problems and Ball spends around £4m on his squad.
Despite a promising start to the season, Pompey begin to
struggle and after a terrible run which sees them pick up
just two points from eight games, Ball is sacked on
Bob McNab (Arsenal)
Now Alan Ball is sacked
from the Portsmouth manager, Bob McNab has taken over as
the temporary manager.
regular piece in the sports section of 'The Times' every
Saturday is throwing up some new answers to the 'where
are they now?' question. Click to see the latest
additions from Picture Points.
Where Are They Now ?
Is also the name of a
book by Andy Pringle and Neil Fissler which now has it's own page on
the site, which I'll add to as I come across new
The ex Nottingham
Forest manager is presently one of the coaches helping Kevin
England. See Soccernet
I've not metioned yet,
but John (Cardiff City squad) is, of course, manager
of Real Madrid.
John Toshack Update ...
ah well now he's
not, it seems. See 19-11-99 - Toshack Article (The
The end of this article
by Elisabeth Nash for 'the Independent', offers the
JOHN TOSHACK FACTFILE
1949: Born 22 March, Cardiff.
1966: Signed for Cardiff City.
1970: Signed by Liverpool. Won
three League titles, the FA Cup and two Uefa Cups. Played
more than 200 games, scoring 95 goals. Won 40 caps (13
goals) for Wales.
1979: Became Swansea City
player-coach, taking them from the Fourth Division to the
1984: Moved to Sporting Lisbon.
1985: Join Real Sociedad as
coach. Won Spanish Cup (1987), second in League (1988).
1989: Becomes Real Madrid coach.
Won League in first season as side scored 107 goals.
1990: 18 November, dismissed 11
games into the season after three successive defeats.
1991: Second spell at Real
1994: 28 January, appointed
Wales coach on part-time basis. Resigned after one game,
a 3-1 defeat by Norway.
1994: 24 November, dismissed as
1995: 23 March, appointed coach
of Deportivo la Coruña, taking over on 1 July.
1997: 9 February, resigned from
1997: 25 June, appointed coach
of Turkish club Besiktas.
1999: 24 February, appointed
coach of Real Madrid.
1999: 17 November, sacked as
Real coach after 11 games, with the team in eighth place.
Further to Trevor ( West
squad) being a commentator, he is also responsible for
answering the readers questions to the 'Match of the Day
Magazine' - 'MOTD'. His problem page, called originally
enough, 'Dear Trevor ...', does not contain one complaint
for which the solution is a suggested trip to the G.P.,
so I guess it's back to , 'Just 17' magazine to answer my
The grossly entitled
Arsewipe, sorry Arseweb page has got its own ArseWEB - Where are they now page. New for these pages are
the following ...
From Arsenal's page itself :
Eddie Kelly makes
double glazing in Torquay.
Frank McLintock is an
agent and commentator on Capitol Gold.
Sammy Nelson sells
insurance in Brighton.
Jon Sammels is a DSA
qualified driving instructor in Leicester.
Players from other
Jeff Blockly (Coventry
allegedly asking for change in Coventry precint (????)
George Eastham (Stoke
sports firm in Cape Town and is President of the Arsenal
Supporters South African Branch.
Alan Hudson (Chelsea) owns a night club in Stoke.
Malcolm McDonald (Luton
Town) is a
successful businessman in Milan (?)
Terry Neill (Hull
City) has a
sports bar in Holburn.
Jimmy Rimmer (Manchester
goalkeeping coach at Swansea.
Ian Ure (Manchester
social worker in Kilmarnock.
Oliver Holt's regular
article in the Saturday 'Times' paper Sports section
covered Bobby Robson's (Ipswich Town manager) return to the town of
his birth to manage it's famous football team Newcastle
United. Robson was born in Sacriston and raised in nearby
Langley Park, where he began work as a electrician at the
age of 15. After signing for Fulham, he would still
return here to play cricket. Bobby showed the journalist
the house his parents lived their retirement till they
died, and the terraced house he lived in as a boy.
Bobby's father, Philip
Rbson, worked in the pits and missed only one shift in 51
years of work, and got Bobby the job there as electrician
on £4 a week. He earned £7 a week at Fulham. His father
was an avid Newcastle United fan, and went to the 1932
Cup Final in the year before Bobby was born. Later Bobby
also went to Newcastle's home matches - an 18 mile bus
journey. Holt writes, 'When Robson says he bleeds black
and white, he says it with such passion that it is easy
to believe him.'
The article finishes on
how Bobby has managed to turn Newcastle's results round
so far with money all spent up by Ruud Gullit his
predesessor. He spoke of how much tougher English
football management is compared to nine years of coaching
the top European clubs, PSV Eindhoven, Poto and
Barcelona. Bobby says that Newcastle is, 'my birthplace,
where I was bred and born and played my early football.
If I wasn't coming home, back to my roots, I wouldn't
have taken it on but I know the North East and I know
what Newcastle United means to the North East.'
The Spurs record games holder is
presently manager of the Japanese title hopes, Shimizu
See News October 28th for full coverage,
but it seems Cloughie (Derby County manager) has now got a stand at
Nottingham Forest's City Ground named after him, as well
as a bronze bust in the ground's reception area.
Willie Morgan (click to see Willie's page).
The first information
of the whereabouts of Willie Morgan has come through.
Badger (Len's reletive ???) says that Willie runs a coach
hire company in the North West, and commentates on local
radio there. And Mouse (Mickey's reletive ???) says he's
often seen on MUTV. Nothing ... not even the search for
Willie Morgan ... will get me to pursue that line of
enquiry by actually watching it.
'The Indpendent on
Sunday' Sports section (p.18) on 10th October, 1999 ran
it's regular, 'The Interview' feature on Harry Redknapp (West Ham United). It's always a sign that a 1970-71 footballer
is still actively involved in the game by the fact that
no reference is made to his own playing career. Arguably,
it is also a sign that Harry's managerial career has
given him more recognition than his playing career. The
interview, entitled, 'Director of arts and artful', by
Nick Townsend concentrates on the past five years, though
it does point out that Harry started his football
management career in the same Oxford City side as Bobby
It seems Harry has
recently been appearing on Tom Watt's Talk Radio
programme, and sold out a 35,000 copy of his
autobiography, " 'Arry". He also owns a
restaurant in Bournemouth calledl 'Lorenzo's' .
Harry's got quite a
temper it seems, during managerial team talks he's thrown
a cup at a former Bournemouth player, Ian Thompson, a
plate of sandwiches at West Ham's Don Hutchinson, and
kicked a tray of cups over (then Bournemouth's) Luther
Blisset, which Luther flicked on the head only to land on
Harry's own suit. Sadly, foreign players wouldn't put up
with this, so he's apparnatly cutailed these activites.
During the interview,
phoned. Harry spoke of the conflict of interests when
Jamie crippled his own cousin Frank Lampard junior such
that he needed to limp off the pitch. Les Sealey, Harry's
assistant, shouted to Frank to get back on and 'F******
do him'.. "Hold on , I'm not quite happy with this
!" reasoned our Harry.
Arthur Bellamy to follow
Peter Lorimer (click to see Peter's page)
The official Leeds
United magazine, 'Leeds, Leeds, Leeds' has a four page
interview by John Morgan talking with Peter Lorimer
entitled, 'Nine-ty Miles An Hou-r' - the speed, as legend
has it, that Peter could hit a ball. Apart from the
occassional (rather excellent) commentary for Radio Leeds
(see below), Peter is now the joint Landlord of 'The
Commercial Hotel', Sweet Street, Holbeck in Leeds which
has many ex-Leeds players visit. Peter's clientele
includes Leeds fans from Norway and Dublin. Peter
comments, "We talk soccer until the lights go out -
it's good to remember". The magazine has pictures of
him standing outside his pub, and sitting inside his pub
- as well as Peter's 'goal' in the 1975 European Cup
Final that wasn't counted by the referee, and playing for
Leeds verses West Brom in 1971.
In Dundee, at 13, Peter
scored 176 goals in one season for Stobswell Boys's
School, and he was a Scottish Schoolboy International at
15. Not surprisingly 35 clubs wanted to sign him, but Don
Revie convinced his parents to sign for Leeds. At 15
years 289 days he became (and remains) Leeds' youngest
player on his debut on 29th September, 1962 versus
Southampton. Of his massive shot, Peter says, "When
I kicked a ball I didn't have to think about rhythm or
power. It was natrual ability, an automatic reaction, and
a gift for which I will always be grateful."
Peter went on to play
605 games for Leeds scoring 220 goals, but was just a few
short of John Charles's League record for Leeds when
Jimmy Adamson sold him to North American football
in1978/9. Peter had four seasons with Toronto and
Vancouver Whitecaps before returning to Eddie Gray's
Leeds United aged 37. He took his games total to 690 with
238 goals and finally beat John Charles' record. When
Billy Bremner became manager in 1985, Peter went to play
and coach for Haifa FC in Israel's first division.To do
so Peter had to convert to Judaism and was given the name
Alon Ben- Avraham - but declined circumcision ! It lasted
just two months as government officials doubted the
conviction behind the conversion and Peter retired from
Peter is another of the
ex-players in demand on the after dinner speaking circuit
and still plays charity games with the Leeds ex-players
Association, though the fans are now apt to sing
"thirty- miles- an- hour".
Jim Ross posed the
question of where is Willie Morgan now ??? Does anybody
know ? (See News 5th September, 1999.)
Southampton's 1976 Cup
See Christian Kelly's Where Are They Now to find out the whereabouts of
this team, which includes Hugh Fisher, Mick
Bobby Stokes (all Southampton), Peter Osgood (Chelsea), Mel Blyth (Crystal
Jim McCalliog (Wolverhampton Wanderers).
According to the
Burnley official website, the former Burnley man is now their groundsman.
Whilst researching for
his page, I see that the former Leeds
currently lives in Solihull and is a training officer
with Birmingham City Council, according to Jarred and
MacDonald's 'Leeds United. A Complete Record' . Breedon
Books : Derby.
The former Burnley player, was the youth team
coach at Leeds, but now isn't. See Leeds United FMC - The Official
Well according to a
Watford website , 'Scully' (see Watford)is now to be found organising
the baggage network behind the scenes at Terminal 4 of
Heathrow Airport !!
Does anyone remember
last Summer's Reebok advert ? It gave the then current
whereabouts of 13 players from the 1970-71 book, plus
plenty of others. Click Reebok to see which players it covers.
Here, at last is the
list of 1970-71 players who are listed as having
footballing jobs in the 1999-2000 'Rothmans Football
Yearbook'. Just click Rothmans.
"Total Sport" magazine(September, 1999, no.45)
has a four page feature on 'the boss' which in this case
is Harry Redknapp the manager of West Ham United for the past 5 years. It's angle is to ask a
Premiership manager (Harry) what it's like to be, well, a
Premiership manager. The article's called , "The
Buck Stops Here' and in it Harry whines on about
transfers and contracts and recalcitrant foreign
footballers. Harry is unusual in the 1970 -71 book as
having been more famous post-playing career than during,
hence there isn't a single reference to his own playing
days ... which is interesting, unlike the article which
is only really for the West Ham fan. There's a fabulous
photo of Bobby Moore and Pele at the 1970 World Cup
behind the first picture of Harry, however! (See the picture )
Thanks to Simon
Hancock, who unwittingly became the webpage's first ever
co-respondent, he wrote : I
came across your page by coincidence after Talk Radio
were running a "Where are they now" spot on
their Friday Afternoon Sports Show. You are also asking
for info so here goes. Anyway - someone rang in to ask
where was former Burnley
player Frank Casper now - the answer is that he's running a
Sportswear company very close to Turf Moor. They
manufacture under the name of Super League and supply to
clubs like Chesterfield, Brighton and Bury. They have
also recenlty landed the contract for Burnley's kit. Now
you know. All the best .Simon Hancock.
'Total Sport' magazine for August
1999 (no.44) has an excellent 3 full page article
entitled, 'Mick's World' all about 'goal legend', Mick
Channon (Southampton). His accent will sound at home
in rural Berkshire at Kingsdown Stables, where he is
training over 100 racing horses. It seems Mick got his
licence in 1990, and last year his horses earned over
£660,000 in prize money, and he sent out 71 winners !
Mick didn't talk about his footballing past other than to
say it gave him the financial means to do what he's doing
now, and he was breeding horses as a hobby when he was at
Manchester City. The magazine had one picture from what
looks like his first spell at Southampton, then two
current ones that show he's looking in excellent shape
(i.e. better than me), (which isn't difficult) for his
fifty years of age.