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January 2001

All e-mails sent to me are answered within a couple of days. It takes a little longer to put them up on the Net ... appologies for anyone waiting to see them here. This batch were all sent between late November and January. Please do email your comments, it makes the hard slog of webpaging all worth while.So here goes ...

Tony Dorgan asked

Can you tell me who Sunderland played on or around 5th December 1970, what
was the score and who scored.
I have been searching the internet for months but never been able to find
anything?

Alternatively, do you know of any sites that have records of such things

Thanks

Tony


That would be Sunderland v QPR in Division Two. It was 3-1 at home to Sunderland. The goalscorers were Joseph Baker 2 (1 penalty), and Billy Hughes for Sunderland, and Mike Leach for QPR.

Your best bet for getting teams and scorers at the moment is still the official or fans sites related to the club you want to know about. There isn't any one site that lists all the teams and scorers of every game. Even then most clubs do not do not have a site that do this.

On this site I have gathered together some of the sites that do at 1970-71 Results. If anyone knows of any others please let me know so I can add them to the page.

Colin Pharoah a real life (not just cyber-) friend has written:

Bob, I can inform you that Malcolm MacDonald is a commentator for Century Radio on 101.8FM  He puts the toon army point of view, whilst Eric Gates (who I'd never heard of) voices the opinions of the sunderland fans, and Bernie Slaven does it for the Boro'.   It's just come to me that the little sunderland captain (chap with a caterpillar under his lip & a kevin keegan perm) of around that period still runs a public house in sunderland.

As a Leeds United fan it hurts me to mention this, but the Sunderland captain, is Bobby Kerr (Sunderland). Eric Gates and Bernie Slavin were not players in the 70-71 season, but it's always good to get a 'where are they now?' on all footballers. Eric was signed to Ipswich Town's books as soon as 1972, so he only just misses out, Bernie was a young lad of 10 at the time.

Thanks Colin !

Nick Szczepanik wrote

It's rather puzzling that, since your entire site claims to be about 1970-71, your Crystal Palace team picture is from 1971-72.

Well yes, that is a good point, I'll concede on that one. The reason I've used pictures from the 1971-72 season is simply that I had them. Also I remembered collecting them back in 1971 so it was good to see them again. I figured that many of the players were the same and that the pictures would do until I found one's from the 1970-71 season itself ... for a person so obsessed with the 70-71 season I'm not that purist !

Rhia Vassallo asked

Dear Bob
Can you help?  What was Peter Shilton's age when he played his last league soccer game?
Regards
Rhia Vassallo

Ok. well
Peter was born 18 September 1949. His last ever League match was on 21 January 1997, which made him 47 years old. The match was for Leyton Orient at home against Wigan Athletic and they lost 2-1. This was his 1005th League game. His last clean sheet came in game no.1,000 for Leyton Orient versus Brighton and Hove Albion on 22 December, 1996 in a 2-0 home victory. Both games were Division 3 matches.

Jack Syrovy wrote

I've always had this notion Trevor Hockey had a short stint with Aston Villa in the 3rd div  is this possible .or was I dreaming ?

Trevor, who was recently voted on this site as the footballer who would make the best Father Christmas, did indeed play for Aston Villa. He played 24 League matches in the 1973-74 season.having moved during the summer from Norwich City. Villa were a second Division side at the time, however ! The following summer he moved on again to Fourth Division Bradford City.

Andrew Vause winner of Quiz 1, wrote

Hi again Bob, I have been reading your relations page, very good too!   A couple of additions you may like to put in; Eddie Gray had a son who played for Celtic in the early 90`s called Stuart (not the one of Notts forest, Barnsley,Aston villa etc.), and I think remember somewhere that Johnny Giles is Nobby Stiles`s brother in law and thus is therefore John uncle. Hope this helps.

Well I've looked into it and you're absolutely right. In fact Stuart has now joined Reading along with Frank Casper's son, Chris.

I've known for a while about Johnny and Nobby, but this is a good excuse to finally include the information on the site.

Huge thanks for that, Andrew.

Linda van der Zon Brouwer, a webmaster( - or is that webmistress?) herself, replied to a querie I had with the following email :

You wanted to know info about 1970/1971 but after that season ADO changed there name into FC Den Haag and I have some info starting season 1971/1972.

I do know Harald Berg played for ADO in 1970/1971 but that's the only info. In the season 1972/1973 Harald Berg was topscorer at FC Den Haag with 10 goals, we ended 5th in the premier league (Eredivisie).

He left FC Den Haag at the end of the season 1972/1973 because FC Den Haag needed money, he left to Bodö. If you want some info about later you can check with me but I've been to your website (which is great) (thanks- Bob) and I don't think that's the idea. Hope above helps. Good luck with your website.

Linda. http://go.to/adofanpage

Linda later sent me these two pictures ...

Harald Berg FC Den Haag v Sparta Moscow

Harald Berg (almost falling) playing for Den Haag v Sparta Moscow

FC Den Haag 1972

FC Den Haag 1972

Standing left to right: Theunissen (coach), Piet de Zoete, Kees Weimer, Aad Mansweld, Joop Korewaar, Ton Thie.

Front left to right:Thijs Wijngaarde, Harald Berg, Dick Advocaat, Kees Bregman, Aad Kila, Paul Roodnat

(If anyone wants to see the full size 121 kb picture then let me know and I'll email it to you - Bob)

Notice that the Rangers manager, Dick Advocaat is next to Harald Berg in the above picture.

Marek Gasiorowski sent me the results of Chelsea's 1970-71 European Cup Winners Cup campaign which was really fantastic. I wrote to Marek to find out the story behind it

Dear Bob!!!   I'm not a Chelsea fan. However I'm intrested in British Soccer, tradition and a lots of success - these are things which I prefer and love. About the information, I sent them because I realized that on your web site there is not any info about Euro Cup.

For 3 years I have been completing data about European Cups. I'm intending to write a book and edit it in the future. By the way, if you be that kind - I hope you are - and send me some info (like mine) about European Cups from 1955 to 1985, I would be VERY grateful.....

Oh dear I don't remember doing that, but I will if I come across some. If anyone else wants to send Marek the information, please use the email address Marek included at the end of his Chelsea information.

Leigh Stewart had a question for me:

The question is : Who holds the record for the most appearances for Manchester City ? I'm a city fan and I haven't got a clue .   If you know the answer please let me know . Thanks.

Well, I did know that, it's Alan Oakes (Manchester City). Well Alan certainly has the record League appearances, so I guess he has the most overall appearances, too.

Kåre B has written with the following warning / 'where are they now?':

Do not believe what you read in English football magazines! 

In the latest issue of 'Total Football', Danny Kelly says Steffen Iversen's father packed the game in early due to alcoholism. This is, actually, not true!

Despite serious injury problems, Odd (KV Mechelen) didn't retire from the Norwegian top level until 1982, aged 37.

He did have a 'bad boy' reputation, though, and has openly admitted drinking problems in the years after his retirement.

He has now been employed as a staff member at Rosenborg BK - the leading
team in Norway - for several years.

Thanks once again Kåre.

Ron Gilmore wrote

I am a former employee of the old San Jose Earthquakes of the NASL (North
American Soccer League)...

We are having a reunion this coming August (2001) and are trying to locate a
few former players and coached that are back in England.  So far, our
attempts have been for not!  

Do you have any idea where the following people are these days.  I obviously
would not expect you to have telephone #'s, etc. but if you could give me a
general idea where they live, or work... that type of thing I would really
appreicate it!  

Bill Foulkes
Colin Bell
George Best
Alan Birchenall
Paul Cahill
Les Chapman
Mike Curczman
Vince Hillaire
Mark Lindsay
Tony Powell
Doug Wark
Ian Wood

You may not know some of these people, but if you could provide any info on
the whereabouts of any... again I would appreciate it immensely!

Ron Gilmore

Ron wrote this a while ago and I know he's traced George Best now, and I suggested trying Leicester City for Alan Birchenall, but if you know any others I'll forward your email to Ron so you can communicate directly.

I quite often get similar requests to this, and I have to say I have NO personal information about any footballers at all. It's the one question I cannot even begin to answer, I'm afraid.

Finbarr Buckley asked

Hi Bob, I was asked this question recently. Who is the only footballer to have won three F.A. cup winners medals in three decades? Thanking You, Finbarr Buckley. P.S. I'm enjoying your site immencely since I read about it in the magazine ''Four Four Two''.

Thanks for that Finbarr. I eventually worked out that the answer is Denise Wise of Chelsea. He won the FA Cup with Wimbledon in 1988, and Chelsea in 1997 and 2000. What a great question !

Kåre Hasund wrote with two questions.

Hello there, Bob!  

I`m a lifelong Arsenal supporter from Norway getting all kind off weird questions. In many ocations I have found the answers on your teriffic site, and have recommended it to all of my friends. (Thanks Kåre -  Bob) 

An Arsenal-player was captain for Great Britain in Olympic Games in 1936, who? I`ve found it must be F.Hill or B.Joy, but I`m not sure. I suppose this is a little bit old for you, but do you know where on the net I could get such information.  

Here`s a question maybe is more from the 60`s. In a LeaugeCup match between Arsenal and Burnley (in 1967/68 I think) Arsenal got two players sent off, who? Can I find this information on your side anywhere?  

Best regards , Norway.

Well the first one is a bit before my time, but you are absolutely right it is Bernard Joy, who later became a journalist and was one of the very last very last amateur England caps.

As for the Arsenal sending offs - I haven't a clue. Anyone else know ?

Flash Harry whilst we're on questions I don't know the answer to, how about this ...

What was the name of the Nottm Forest winger who got the nickname
"roadrunner" whilst at Newcastle Utd?

The trouble with not knowing an answer, is that you then want to know. Anyone reading this know (?) then do write to me.

David Anderson had a question even further away from the scope of this site

Good afternoon,   Are there any brothers with the initials AM and PM who played for England ?   Thanks and regards  

But I knew the answer anyway. AM and PM Walters were England players between 1883-1890.

Finbarr Buckley wrote a second time.

Hi Bob, I need you to provide the answer to this question as soon as possible. Who was the last player signed by Sir Matt Busby (Man U General Manager)for Man. Utd.? I put this question to a couple of work-mates recently having come across it in Jim White's excellent book,'' Always in the Running - The Manchester United Dream Team.'' You would not believe the consternation it has caused. Jim White says it was Willie Morgan, but the vast legion of Utd. supporters at work say no!

There even is a customer willing to verify by means of another book that it was Lou Macari (Celtic squad). I definately say no way to that answer, but I am beginning to have my own doubts now. Looking forward to your answer with relish.       

By the way, Bob, I wonder if you would be interested in featuring an article or two on the golden era of soccer in my own city of Cork. From 1970-1974, the two League of Ireland clubs in the city, Hibernians & Celtic dominated the domestic scene and played regularly in Europe, drawing large crowds and provided their fare share of characters and humerous incidents. It would give me great pleasure to undertake this project now that the Christmas shopping rush has ended.         Thanking You,         Finbarr Buckley.

I am as certain as I can be from two or three different sources that it is Willie Morgan. Certainly he was the last major signing, but whether or not there was a free transer which didn't make any headlines, I cannot find out.

Lou Macari was signed by Tommy Docherty (FCPorto)!

As for the League of Ireland information - please, please do, it would be fantastic. If anybody wants to add any information, please be assured I would almost certainly include it and it would all be gratefully received.

N.B. I've since checked this with Willie's son, Scott, who confirms that Willie was Sir Matt's last ever signing. Thanks, Scott.

Mrs Penney enquired

Could you please tell me who played in goal for West Ham, and what was the
year when West Ham  beat Fulham at Wembley? My husband has a bet with someone
so we are hoping that you can help us.

The answer is future Leeds United goalkeeper, Mervyn

Mike Penney then replied

Hi Bob,

Very many thanks for your answer to my question. I'm glad that I
wasn't on Chris Tarrant's show being asked the same question for a million!

I remember Mervyn Day very well, a great young goal keeper who I think was
overplayed whilst he was too young. I heard him being interviewed on the
radio a couple of years ago. He sounded a very nice guy, not mad enough to be
a goalie!! ( I spent all my footballing career in goal!) 

Through walking my two German Shepherd dogs in the local woods, I have become
friends with Steve (Jock) Finnieston, the ex Chelsea Player. He's a keen dog
walker too. Knowing my interest in goal keepers, he mentioned that he had met
Peter Mellor (
Burnley), the ex Fulham keeper whilst on holiday in Florida last year.

I knew that he was in goal for the final against West Ham, but I just couldn't
remember the Hammers' keeper, so many thanks for your answer.

Steve and a few others thought that it was Phil Parkes (QPR), but I knew that he had joined the club at a later date. Anyway thanks to you the picture is now clear.

Let's hope that the present Hammers side get a grip. They should be up with
the best! (Like Leeds United you mean ?!- Bob)

Thanks again for your help. Yours, Mike Penney

Well I was a goalkeeper, too, so this letter was particularly a pleasure to receive, thanks, Mike.

Steve Finnieston himself could well qualify for the site as a youth player. Steve signed for Chelsea in December 1971, so misses out as a full professional player by only half a year !

Steviex wrote

Bob,   Re: your quizlet, I believe that Ipswich team did not go on to win in europe after their cup final victory. They actually won the UEFA cup in 1981 after finishing runners up to the Villa the season before. Sorry to be perdantic!

Fantastic page by the way. It brought a lot of memories flooding back. This was the first soccer album that my Dad brought for me and was instrumental in turning me into an obsessive football nutter during my youth. I actually still have the complete album.

Do you have any more albums from the same era and if so, are you planning to create more pages for them?   Regards,   Steviex

Well fair point Steviex. I guess I was speaking in more general terms, but I cannot answer with your point.

Thanks for the praise ! Hold on the album they're worth a pretty penny now !

Well I do have other albums, but I do not have any more time, so I'm afraid I can't do any other years much as I would love to.



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