February / March 2004
Subject:
Crystal Palace
Hi Bob,
Pleased to say I have been
able to trace the top picture of the Palace youth
team 1971-72. Still searching for others.
Best Wishes
Tony
See Crystal
Palace.
Thanks Tony, for a great piece of detective work, which
never ceases to amaze me.
Subject: Chelsea Goalkeepers
Hi
Please can you tell me who replaced Peter Bonetti in
goal at Chelsea, and in which year.
Many thanks
Sheila Farnham
That's not all that
easy to answer. John Phillips and Peter
Bonetti fought
over the position for much of the Seventies and Phillips
almost completely replaced Bonetti in 1974-75.
But it wasn't all over there, Steve Sherwood
had a small stint in 1975-76, then the Phillips / Bonetti
battle recommenced.
In 1978-79 season, Peter Bonetti, Bob Iles,
Steve Philips AND Yugoslavian, Peter Borota,
all played.
In July 1979, Bonetti left and the next season Borota
played all but 1 League game, when Iles took over, so I
reckon the simple answer would be .... Peter Borota in
1979 !
Subject:
Ask Greaves
Bob,
Does www.askgreaves.com still exist? Any alternative
sites or resources you know about?
Regards
Graham Ambler
WHITBY TOWN PROGRAMME CONTRIBUTOR
No it's gone I'm
afraid. I did write to the authors to ask why, but they
never replied.
All the sites I know about are listed at Where are they
now ? , which newly
includes the site
www.truegreats.com
Subject:
Bobby Moore
Hi,
Came
upon your site after searching for info on Bobby
Moore.
I just saw him on an airing of "What's My
Line?" shown on the Game channel last night.
The episode was from May of 1963.
I thought you might be interested that he appeared on
the show.
Thanks,
Susan Suprise
Thanks for
that, Susan.
Subject:
spelling
Bob,
I hate to see a good web site spoiled by so many
spelling errors. On the page Michael
Owen
you might like to have the following correct
spellings:
endorsements (twice)
Michael (cf Euro 2000 and twice under March 2002)
hat trick (I think you have hatrick seven times)
Wembley
quarter-final
versus
England (under March 2001)
include (not in clude)
sponsors not sponsor's
Fans' (not Fan's)
and (under August 2001)
Sir Bobby Charlton and Pelé give (not gives)
Earners' (not Earner's)
Liechtenstein
On Michael Owen (2) you have some more hatricks
and have mis-spelt Newtownards,
Salzburg and Paraguay.
I have
not checked other pages.
I know some of these are just typos, but a few
minutes proof-reading each new page would gain your
site a lot more respect.
Keep up the good work!
Michael Spathaky
Hi Michael,
Re: I hate to see a good web site spoiled by so many
spelling errors.
Great email. thanks. To be honest, I wouldn't waste such
a strong emotion as 'hate' on something so trivial. That
said I'm always happy to get corrections to the site.
If you only had any idea how much time goes into doing
the site, you would understand why so many errors slip
through. I barely have time to write new information, let
alone proof read stuff that's already there. It's not
helped by the fact that I do not have a spellcheck, and
my natrual sense of spelling is appaullink.
I disagree with 'hat trick', I think that's being
pedantic and too literary, the word has evolved and
merged to hatrick in popular usage. Alright ?
...hmmmm,that said, I'll probably still change it.
Actually, I think it's 'hat-trick'.
Anyway, I trust you'll keep me posted with any mistakes
in the future, I do actually quite appreciate it.
Subject:
Eamonn Dunphy
Bob,
Somehow
came across your website whilst looking for a book
written by Eamonn Dunphy.
Do
you know the name of the book which Eamonn wrote
based on his diary of his last season at
Millwall.
Regards
Peter Dell
You are
referring to, Only a game: A Diary of a professional
footballer, which first came out in 1976. There was
a second edition in 1987.
If you are
looking to buy it, www.abebooks.com often has copies for sale.
In honour
of this request, Eamonn now has his own page on the site,
see Eamonn Dunphy
Subject:
Hat-trick
Could you please define a"hat-trick" in
football. I have been betting that the true
definition is three consecutive goals scored by a
player. Am I right or wrong ?
Bob
I
answered: No it's just three goals by one player in
a single match, they don't have to be consecutive - and
own goals don't count of course ! (Unless you get a
hat-trick of own goals !) There
isn't even really a term for scoring more than three, but
I imagine 6 goals could be described as 'a double
hat-trick'.
But Bob
persisted...
Thanks
for the reply, I suppose I may be grasping at straws,
but I think if you go back far enough three
concecutive goals was deemed to be a hat-trick, the
term came from cricket, I have got a few bob on the
outcome of this argument.
Regards
Bob......
And I was
forced to revisit the subject. I replied...
Believe me I'm ALWAYS on the side of visitors to my site,
and I thought I was going to have to insist you concede
on this one...but...
I've read the
definition of 'Hat Trick' as appears in F.C. Avis's
'Soccer Dictionary' - 2nd edition, which dates from 1966,
and he writes:
'the
scoring by one player of three goals in succession in a
given match; a team winning the
championship three times in succession, etc.'
I have to admit to
be amazed at finding this, as it has never been the
definition I've been aware of, and my football
consciousness began about 1970.
So, I have to
modify my answer to , 'originally defined as the scoring
by one player of three goals in succession in a given
match, it has come to mean one player scoring three
goals in a single match, which do not have to
be consecutive - and excluding own goals, of course ! '
I thought, at first Mr Avis just didn't know the
correct definition, but the 1997 'The Cassell Soccer
Companion', prooves you absolutely correct about it
being an older definition. It says:
"'hat-trick' The
scoring of three goals by a single player in the course
of a match (orginally consecutive goals)"
So it all depends on the exact bet you made, yes it did
once mean that, but no it doesn't anymore.
Incidentally, I have kept an eye out for the use of the
word since you asked me, and the term 'double-hat-trick'
and 'treble-hat-trick' is used amongst football
journalists.
I also found out
that there has never been a hat-trick of own goals in
English football. However, abroad there was a team that
under protest lost a match 149-0 deliberately scoring own
goals, but they didn't keep a count of who got them - I
realise this was nothing to do with your question, but it
fascinated me !
Bob
answered...
Thanks
once again for the reply, I think I will have to
settle for a 0-0 draw. Regards Bob........
Make it a
4-4 draw where one team has a player who scores 3
consecutive goals and the other a player who scores 3
including the first and last of the 4 goals... OK I'll shut up, now.
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