August 2001
Pete Evans wrote
The team photo
shown on the Retro Rovers page of the program issued for
the Bristol Rovers versus Torqay United match is causing
much interest and discussion. Can you help us to identify
the reserve keeper, in the back row, and the player on
his left (r.h. side as we look). Several names have been
offered, but we need confirmation. Can you help? Hope you
can come up with the answer . Pete
From left
to right the back row are; Harold Jarman, Wayne Jones,
???, ???, Bobby
Jones.
Middle row ; Carl Gilbert, Frankie Prince, Tony Ford,
Dick Sheppard, Stuart Taylor, Linsay Parsons, Alex Munro.
Front row; Bobby Campbell, Phil Roberts, RayGraydon,
Robin Stubbs, Sandy Allen, Bryn Jones, Peter Higgins, and
Don Megson.
After an exchange
of several emails, I eventually came across a photo taken
at the same time as the above in the October 1970 edition
of 'Charles Buchan Monthly'.
The elusive players are Laurie (aka 'Larry') Taylor
(goalie) and John Tedesco. The photo has now been added to the Bristol Rovers page - so thanks for that Pete.
Thomas Kuhndt in a similar vein sent me a
great picture of Leeds United in 1970-71, with the
following queries.
Hi Bob, first many greetings
from Dresden. Your Website is very good!!!!!!!!
(Thanks- Bob) In 1970 I saw AFC Leeds United versus
Dresden here in the Fairs Cup 2nd round (Dynamo won 2-1).
However, Leeds United FC went on to win the Fairs-Cup. In
the 3rd round Leeds played Sparta Prag (Czechoslovakia)
and from the away game (Prag) I have an original
team-photo of Leeds United but I have one little
problem!
Can you please
help me perhaps? This team-photo does not come with
the names . Also I do not have the
LUFC-start-formation from this match. I have looked in
other Leeds United-team-photos, books and magazins
as well as your Website and I have found some names,
but not all of them. So I've made a scan-copy and
sent you this picture and the names I have. I hope
that you can give me the missing names please
You are my last
chance. I thank you in advance and wish you all the best.
My kind regards to you. Thomas Kuhndt
Back row (left
to right): Hunter, Madeley (???), ???,
(Wales-goalkeeper), Cooper (the best England-back!!!),
???
Front row: Sprake (the best A. Clarke
(???), Lorimer (???), Bremner (the best!!!!!!!!), Gray
(???), Reaney
Back row:
Norman Hunter, Paul Madeley, Peter Lorimer, Gary Sprake,
Terry Cooper, Rod Belfitt.
Front row: Allan
Clarke, Mick Bates, Billy Bremner, Eddie Gray, Paul
Reaney.
What a
great picture, thanks !And thanks for the kind comments
about the site.The team photo line up can be seen under
the photo.
What a great team !!!!
The Leeds team that day v Dynamo Dresden was as follows:
Gary Sprake; Nigel Davey, Paul Madeley, Billy Bremner,
Jackie Charlton, Norman Hunter, Peter Lorimer, Allan
Clarke, Mick Jones, Johnny Giles, Mick Bates.
Mick Jones got the Leeds goal that got us through on the
away-goal's rule.
Did you want the line up from the Sparta away game ?
Gary Sprake (David Harvey); Paul Reaney, Terry Cooper,
Billy Bremner, Paul Madeley, Norman Hunter (Terry
Yorath), Peter Lorimer, Allan Clarke, Rod Belfitt, Mick
Bates, Eddie Gray.
Gray, Clarke and
Belfitt scored the goals in a 3-2 victory (9-2 on
aggregate !)
Thomas replied
Hi Bob,
Thank
you very much for the names and all the informations. It
this SUPER and finally I have this teamphoto
"complete" (with the names). Yes, Leeds United
1970-71 - what VERY great team, I think the best from
Europe.
To the games v Dynamo Dresden.
This was the DD-formations: Kallenbach - Doerner -
Ganzera, K. Sammer (the dad from the ex-German
international and today Borussia Dortmund-Manager
Matthias Sammer), Kern, Haustein - Hemp, Ziegler,
Kreische - Heidler, Richter.
Leeds scored a penalty (Lorimer)
In
Dresden: (21 - 10 - 1970) Kallenbach - Doerner -
Ganzera, Klaus Sammer, Haustein - Hemp, Kreische, Ziegler
- Riedel (76th Geyer - today the Manager from the
Budesligateam Energie Cottbus) Richter, Sachse, Heidler.
The DD-goals scored by: Hemp (15.) and Kreische (64)
Best regards Thomas
Thomas has since
written several more times since with lots of great
photos of the Dresden team. I've still got to put them
all up yet, but you can see some of them on Dynamo Dresden's page.
Kåre B writes
in response to a previous enquiry in July 2001
Bob,
I think I've found out when Bobby
Moore
played his 1000th senior game. According to the biography
'Bobby Moore' by Jeff Powell, Moore played his 1000th
game in senior football ("first class
appearance") for Fulham at Blackburn on Saturday 14,
May 1977. This was the last match of the season, and
Fulham lost 0-1.
Kåre
That's brilliant Kåre. It's all
too rare that people answer queries posted by the site,
so I really do appreciate it when someone does. Thanks
very much.
Kåre wrote again later in the month
Bob,
Gordon Banks, Keith Newton, Tommy Wright, Terry Cooper,
Alan Mullery, Brian Labone, Bobby Moore, Francis Lee,
Peter Osgood, Alan Ball,
Bobby Charlton, Jackie Charlton, Geoff Hurst, Martin
Peters, Jeff Astle, Colin Bell, Allan Clarke, Peter
Bonetti, Norman Hunter....
These 19 players played
in the World Cup finals in Mexico, but who were the
remaining three in England's squad?
And do you remember if there were any players
surprisingly not selected when Sir Alf named his final
squad of 22?
I believe Alan Hudson
was were disappointed when he wasn't picked...
I've always been fascinated by Mexico '70, probably
because it's the first
World Cup I can remember glimpses of. I've even
considered making a web
site on the tournament. Those were the days .... ;)
Kåre
The missing three are Alex Stepney, Nobby
Stiles and Emlyn Hughes, who
are the three selected squad players who didn't get a
game.
I've got a book which lists the 'original selections' of
all the countries and it includes a long list of English
possibles, which makes interesting reading
It includes the 22 plus: Mike Bailey, Ralph
Coates, Colin Harvey,
John Hollins, Alan Hudson,
Mick Jones, Brian Kidd,
Roy McFarland, Bob McNab,
Jim Montgomery, Alan Oakes,
Joe Royle, David Sadler,
Peter Shilton, Peter Simpson,
Tommy Smith, Mike Summerbee, Peter
Thompson.
One of the headline decisions was when Paul
Madeley did not make himself available because
he said he was on holiday with his family. It caused
quite a stink at the time because no-one believed a
footballer could put his family before the World Cup
Finals. There was talk that he would never be selected
for England again, but in the event he was.
Another Leeds United player, Paul Reaney
broke his leg just weeks before the tournament began.
Along with Paul Madeley and Paul Reaney, Ian
Storey-Moore and Henry Newton
were included in th FKS Mexico World Cup 1970 book and
the ESSO coins, but aren't in the list of hopefuls above.
Yes it was my first World Cup that I remember, so it was
probably responsible for getting me interested as a fan,
also. I love everything about it, and even now people
talk about Banks' save as one of the very best ever, and
Brazil's 70 team being THE best ever, so it has stood the
test of
time.
Do the Website !!! I would love to see it. I would link
it that's for sure. It'll save me doing it, too!!!
See Star players of Mexico
See Emails Summer 2004, for the 6 names left out of the squad
when it reduced from 28 to 22.
(Answer updated 25/7/04)
Andy Cunningham So can anyone help with this
request ?
Bob
Wonder
if you can help. I'm trying to find out details of a
Gungot Tekin , a former Turkish international who
played for Galatasaray in the late 60's early 70's, but I
can't find anything on him. Any idea of websites that
could help?
Any
advice greatly appreciated Best wishes Andy Cunningham
I love requests like
this one because I wonder why anyone would want to
know! I have to admit I'm stuck on this one, I've
never had a request for a Turkish player before. I would love to know more about
Gungot if anyone does have any information.
Kevin Rye: writes
Bob,
I have a number of editions of 'Football Monthly' ranging
from 1956 to 1961, including the March 1958 edition with
a picture of Duncan Edwards on the front and an insert
commemorating the lives lost in the Munich
aircrash.
Would you know anyone who may be interested in purchasing
them from me? They are almost all in good, if not very
good, condition.
Thanks
Kevin Rye
Any regular readers to the site's
email page will already know my answer to this. Basically
your best bet is to go to the auction sites and sell them
there. These magazines are actually very sought after,
and I would guess sell for between 2 to 5 pounds each if
the condition is good. Sometimes the price goes up if you
are lucky enough to get several bidders competing against
each other. See Links: Commercial for suggested auction sites.
Roger Barber writes
Hi. I think
that Tony Currie was one of the greatest
footballers England produced. I remember as a teenager
watching Star Soccer on a Sunday afternoon and seeing him
destroy the opposition single-handedly.
Can you tell me
where I can get a video of him? I have tried the Blades
shop but they don't have one. Regards Roger Barber
I agree he was a great
player - my memory of him was mainly whilst he was at
Leeds United. I've never seen a video dedicated to
him or even that features him in particular, so I'm
afraid I can't help there. A definate gap in the market -
I would say ... Does
anyone else know of one ?
Jules made this request
Hi Bob, great site! Just
wondering if u know where I can get sound clips or goal
clips from the
70's? Desperate to find David Coleman, in the 74 FA Cup
final..saying . Toshack...Keegan...wuuuuun nil, goals pay
the rent and Keegan gets his share!
Just not the same any more, is it?! Please, please help!
Jules
Thanks for the 'great site' comment. There aren't lots of
places to get sound clips I'm afraid. The best sites I've
seen that do, tend to get closed down pretty quickly.
... In fact I was just about to give you a link from one
remaining site I knew of and that's gone now , too !!!
I think a better bet would be to try and trace a BBC
video of 70s Football, all the finals have been released.
I don't think young fans today will ever experience
football like we did, money truely has taken over and
it's become a soap opera at the Premiership level. But I
still love it and could never stop supporting Leeds !!
Sorry I can't help more with the clip. One of my very
best football moments is Coleman at the 72 Cup Final
saying 'Clarke .... 1-0', I've said that a thousand
times.
- Postscript - if you are a
Liverpool fan it is worth registering to the official
site, they have classic clips there. The Newcastle Cup
Final match isn't available yet, but they do have
Liverpool v Everton from the 70-71 season itself !!!! It
was in November and was 3-2 to Liverpool.
See www.liverpool.fc.tv
Rich Holiday asked
Dear Bob,
Can you send me any info on Topical
Times
books. When we were 8 both my cousin and I were given the
1987 book and have been obsessed with it ever since and
permanently refer back to it. Yet we have never heard of
it in any other context, before or since. Please help!
Rich
I presume you found the page http://ds.dial.pipex.com/bob.dunning/topical.htm
Other than the fact that I grew up with the album, and
got one every Christmas for years, I don't know too much
about it. They certainly date from 1961 possibly earlier,
and they produced one in 2001 because I sent it as
a Christmas present ! Perhaps it would be worth writng to
them to find out more. Anyone else have any history I can
pass on ?
Peter Mcgrath wrote
Bob, I have many players
current whereabouts held on file I will look them out and
contact you later. Is it possible you can help me
with the whereabouts of some Ex Players example David
Best Ex Ipswich. Great site for someone like me who
collects autographs.
Regards
Peter Mcgrath
Well www.askgreaves.com does list David Best. I'm having trouble
logging on to it right now, but the book it's based on
says that he lives in Wareham and (in 1997 at least) was
manager of Wareham Rangers in the Dorset combination,
that's as up to date as I can be on David I'm afraid.
I'm glad you like the site - I look forward to ANY
information you can send, I'll include it on the site
straight away. And that gore for everybody who writes to
the site.
Conor Laverty wrote
Hi Bob, looking
though your site. very good (thanks- Bob), and lots of
info in there. I was particularly interested in
information about the great Pat Jennings. I saw him a
week ago in an ice cream shop in Northern Ireland. He had
a kid (probably a grandchild) under his arm, and still
managed to hold 3 or 4 ice creams! I've never known him
to drop anything!!
He was an idol for everyone my age when I was
younger, and it was great to meet him. Do you
happen to know any good web sites dedicated to Pat ?
Also, do you know where I could find all the Premiership
results from 92-2001, as I need to settle a score with
some people! Good site, keep it up.
You saw Pat !! That's
great. He has got the biggest hands in the World, so it
does not surprise me that he didn't drop anything. He was
an idol of mine too - even though he played for Spurs (my
position was goalie). Hmm
I don't know of a Pat Jennings site as such, but if you
find one tell me and I'll link it up.
As for results of the Premiership Bruce Smith's book '
Premier League Record File' printed by Virgin, is
excellent but only goes up to 2000 (no edition this year
unfortunately). What do you need to know? I might be able
to help or at least point you in the direction you need.
Sara Clark enquired
Hi!
Wonder if you can help... I heard that Geoff Hurst
was doing a book signing tomorrow lunchtime in London W1
(the Charing Cross Road area) do you know anything
about it???? I desperately need to know
where.......... Thanks, Sara Clark
Ah ... no I'm afraid I
don't, but anyone wanting a signed copy of Geoff's book should go to The Times - Sir Geoff Hurst
Katie asked a favour
I know this might seem a
strange request but I am looking for help.
My father, a life long WBA fan, is retiring the end of
this month and I have got a replica Jersy of the FA cup
final in 67/68.
What I am looking for is for Jeff Astle to sign it.
It would be appreciated if you could contact me as to how
I could go about this.
I really wish I
could help unfortunately I don't have any contacts with
the players themselves - much as I wish I did. It might
be best to contact West Brom and see if they know how to
contact him, though I imagine you've thought of that !
Claire asked this favour
Dear Bobby,
I'm writing to you on behalf of St --- Primary School, we
are a small group who organise fund raising events. In
November we are holding our major fund raising event, a
grand auction of donations and promises. We are trying to
raise enough money to complete our computer suite. This
as you can image costly and long awaited project which
will directly and greatly benefit all the children.
Bearing this in mind is there any donation such as
memorabilia that we can auction off on the night to the
highest bidder. Anything no matter how small will be
greatly appreciated.
Well I was just about to send of
my junior school goalie shirt, when I realised that this
was intended for Bobby Charlton - not me, Bob(by)
Dunning. As I said above, I have no contact with the
players themselves, I'm merely a fan ! If you want to
send me a knighthood through the internet, I will gladly
receive this, however. Good luck with the fundraising
though !!!
Brenda asked this favour ...
Hi Bob, Hope you can help
us. My Sister-in-Law has been trying for ages to
find an address to write to for the autograph and picture
of Peter Shilton, without any success. Have you any idea where
we might obtain this information?? Your help would be
greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Brenda
Can we spot a theme
here ? Of course Brenda didn't realise hers was the third
such email in a day, but I have to admit I didn't spend
hours researching an answer ...
Eflin commented
Hallo Owen, I just wanna
say that I'm the bigest fan-natic fans of you.
Please give me your picture, thank you.
eflin
Now I definately can't
handle Michael Owen's fan mail too, not after the summer
he's just had ... Anyway try http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/ Liverpool's official site
MKM asks
Hi-
Just wondering if you could help me. Could you tell
me who won the World Cup
in soccer in 2000?
As you may be able to tell, I don't know much about
sports - I am just doing
some research.
Thanks so much.
MKM
Wow it's nice be asked something
I don't have to look up for once :-)
France won the last World Cup in 1998, the next Finals
are not until 2002 as it's every four years.
Dan Bergsman asked
Is Ali McGraw
still alive?
I'm not sure I even
know who Ali McGraw is ... does anyone else ??? (See Denis Law and
Ali McGraw)
Will Brown asked
Bob - I have
three complete collections of the Wonderful World of
Soccer Stars I made when I was 10 - First Div 68- 69 First Div 69-70 Mexico 70
Are
they worth anything - if so do you know how much?
Cheers
Will
Brown (a gashead)
How much the albums
are worth will, of course depend on how well you looked
after them both as a ten year old, and subsequently, of
course. At the auction sites last year a complete 70-71
album in good condition from the same series sold for
over a hundred quid.
That's unusual, though, I've seen the World Cup 70 album
sell for only 20 quid on a bad auction. If you are wanting to sell them I would specify
a reserve fee of at least 40 quid.
See http://ds.dial.pipex.com/bob.dunning/links.htm#commercial for suggested sites.
I hope this
helps. Mind you, I would love to have
those albums and wouldn't be able to sell them even if I
was destitute !
Norbert Hakoun asked
Dear Sir I' m Searching for
Video tapes (VHS PAL) with Arsenal matches
from 1970-1971. Do you know of any ?
Good to hear from you.
The 1970-71 Arsenal team was indeed one of the best
in the history of the English football. There is a video
of the 70-71 season available, also the BBC have done a
video of the FA Cup Final. There
is a section on Arsenal which includes most of the videos
I know about http://www.soccer-books.co.uk/acatalog/acatalog.html
Atanas Gospodinov writes
Hi Bob,
I am Atanas from Haskovo, Bulgaria. Can you help me any
more info for my heores as a boy Norman Whiteside and
Frank Stapleton. Did they live in the UK. Somebody told
me that Frank has a farm in Cheshire and Norman works
part time as a physio for few 1st Division clubs, did you
know is it true and if yes, please let me know what clubs
Norman is physio?
Thanks for your time, Atanas
Yes, did you know soon I received back from Dunfermline a
photo signed from ex-United Jimmy Nicholl
I have to admit I'm not sure of
the whereabouts of either player.
http://www.askgreaves.com/ is a good 'Where are they now ?' site,
but they have Frank Stapleton as being a manager in the
US, and says that NormanWhiteside is on the After-dinner
speaking.
Rob Saunders had this interesting enquiry
Hi Bob, I have just acquired
autographs of Charles Buchan and Alex James. Do you have
any information on either of them ?. Kind Regards, Rob Saunders
Well they're a bit
before the time of my site. They have being Arsenal
players in common.
Charlie Buchan was a player in the 1920's that played
for Leyton,Sunderland, Arsenal and England. He was
an FA Cup winner with Arsenal in 1927. He's known
to later generations as being the name behind Charles
Buchan's Football Monthly and Yearbook. He died in 1960.
Alex James is a
part of the great Arsenal team of the Thirties which won
4 Championships and reached 3 FA Cup Finals. He was
bought by Arsenal from Preston, and he began his career
at Raith. He played just 8 games for Scotland. He
became a journalist and coach after retirement in 1937.
He died in 1953.
Given that both players are legendary and died many years
ago, I would say that the autographs are pretty valuable.
Peter asked an oft asked question
Dear
Bob - I have been searching and searching for
a copy of 'The Wonderful World of Soccer Stars' (1970/71
edition) for over ten years without success and only came
across your website the other day. Do you know of anyone
who has this album and who is willing to sell it? Peter
Your best bet is the
Auction sites, they quite often come up for sale there. I
don't know what you consider a 'good price', but a
complete good condition copy did sell for over a hundred
pounds - which isn't that bad. Incomplete copies in used
condition tend to sell for 40-60 pounds, though the odd
one slips through cheaper than that.
See http://ds.dial.pipex.com/bob.dunning/links.htm#commercial
If you type 'fks'
into the search engines on the auction sites, you usually
come up with something, though you'll have to be patient
to get exactly what you want. Complete copies don't come
up as often, obviously.
There was one link that had the album for sale for a
fixed price, but that disappeared and I've never seen one
since. It was selling complete albums in the 100 pound
area, too.
Let me know if you find another way of buying one, I
would be very keen to pass the information - and at 100
pounds I'm not in the market to compete with you for
buying one !!
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